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>> with chris christie and "with all due respect," leave us kids alone. >> happy national fig newton day, sports fans! the oscar critics protest, and the obama-cameron bro fest, but first, the supreme court is all in on gay marriage. today the supreme court accepted four cases on gay marriage, and whether they can refuse to acknowledge same-sex marriages performed in other states, in
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other words, it could be a historic decision. in the annals of american civil rights. the cases will consolidate together in april with a decision likely in june. given that timing, what is the likely impact on the 2016 presidential race? >> i would be shocked if there were not five votes for this maybe even six, kennedy might go along with the liberals, maybe also roberts. it gets overturned, democrats rejoice. this is really going to impact republicans. they are going to have to decide if they are going to stand in the way and try to overcome this or be more like jeb bush, or say i don't like this but live and let live and we navigate what -- relitigate what has been a historic sweep of public opinion. >> one of the real secrets for the republican party, which is not a secret anymore, is that it moves dramatically so that it
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takes it off the table. either way it goes, it puts the issue back in the middle of the public discussion and put you in an uncomfortable position where you could be on the wrong side of the public or the wrong side of the republican base voters. it is just a bad, bad scene for them. >> rick santorum will oppose it if the court overturns it, but people like mike huckabee, rick perry, i don't think they are going to want to take up this fight. they can read the demographic data just like everybody else. >> ok. as the barenaked ladies liked to say it has been one week since mitt romney said he might run for president again. we asked president obama about what he thought. >> on your last question, i have no comment. [laughter] ? -- >> marc comak romney has had a
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rough week, with republicans dishing him on background and almost no one in his inner circle expressing support. i wonder if he can turn this around with his speech. i have to say, the way things are going right now, it would have to be one hell of a speech. to change the weather on this. i am not saying he is not going to run, but i don't think he is going to commit all of the republicans who are less than enthusiastic about this. that you suddenly the guy for them in 2016. what do you think? >> there has not been a lot of excitement at this meeting there are a lot of nuts and bolts. he needs three things. not only a speech where he explains what he is actually doing and he can't just come in and make this a meet and greet and number two, he also needs more people to come out on his behalf, and he needs people to come out and support him who are not related to him or on his payroll. the last thing he needs, he needs a rationale, people like eric byrnes who could talk on his behalf and not make this about fundraising or about poll ratings, he has to have a
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rationale for running and people could get excited about him. if he does that. >> i can't imagine that he is going to announce anything tonight, but if he does not lay out some sort of rationale, the same thing that hillary clinton does not have. that is not good for mitt romney or his people. >> he might make it clear tonight that he is running. it is a possibility. >> that will be big news, and we can talk about that if it happens. so chris christie and jeb bush or -- are the leviathans of the republican bracket, and scott walker also spoke at the republican meeting a last night, and christie is speaking at this hour, outside of that, is there anyone out where you are? >> well the two guys that we heard were ben carson, and they -- and scott walker, they did find that -- fine but they did
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not set the room on fire. they were talking about isis and their willingness to die, but the speech did not blow people away, it did not continue the hot streak he has been on with a lot of activists. walker last night at dinner was fine, but did not have an overall national message, but i think that his low-key style plays well to a lot of settings and the room last night, there were a lot of national media outlets, but i don't think anybody left the room upgrading walker's chances. had he been magical and set the room on fire, i think that would have been great, but he did not do it. >> scott walker always reminds me of tim valenti from two years -- four years ago. when you get in the room with him, it is not that he is not a good guy or a decent performer, but he is like a aaa baseball player and republicans need someone who is an all start to -- all-star to get hillary
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clinton, and i can't imagine they are going to get scott walker with their hopes and dreams. >> he talked about how to buy a shirt at kohl's with coupons and discounts to get it down to zero or less to get the short for free, it was a nice story, and it shows, again, he is a very relatable guy, but i think to play in the big leagues, he has to step up in his game and get new advisors, it probably did not hurt him last night, but it did not help him. >> in this environment he will have to do something dramatic with all of those big heavyweights looming above him. and president obama and david cameron had a share of play dates at the white house today and yesterday. they kept it all -- capped it off with a charming press conference that barack and davey go together like bangers and mash! >> thank you very much barack. >> david is a great friend. >> you are a great friend to britain and to me personally.
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>> how comfortable we are working together. >> i would agree. >> how comfortable the u.s. and the u.k. are as friends. >> we see the world in the same way. >> thank you for your friendship. >> mark we were watching this on television and talked about this before, but what struck me about this, there is a very political context for david cameron, he is running for reelection and will have another campaign in may, but the atmosphere of this, they seem to like each other even though they are from different ends of the ideological spectrum, barack obama seemed like he was trying to help david cameron out, but what struck you about this special relationship today? >> well, again, the president does as we said earlier, the president does not have great personal relationships with a lot of world leaders, but he has a good raport with david cameron. they were talking about a certain veto if congress doesn't work with him, and the president wants of these negotiations to
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go forward and he wants a strong , unitary executive to back these negotiations without interference from his point of view from congress. >> unitary executive, words of george w. bush. we are going to move forward to the speed round. mark, we are going to do three topics really fast. first up is the oscars and the snub of "selma," and the 20 nominees in the actor categories are dominantly white, are they right? >> historically this is an unfortunate thing, but it is fine, the performances that were nominated were all good, and i think it is unfortunate, but i don't thing anyone should have a big problem with that. >> i am not surprised, it is very striking about the whiteness, at the same time, you have years of like this sometime, there is not very much
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diversity, not much in the academy administration, but you can't enforce diversity over creative arts. >> it is not ideal, it is not ideal, it is not a great thing. >> second topic, ben carson compared isis with ye olde founding fathers. the terrorists are willing to die for what they believe in. his words, is he right? >> as a politician would say that is not the words that i would use, i don't think it was a big deal, i think that carson has made claims that were a lot bigger than that. >> i agree with you about this i think that there was something faintly true about this even though it is impolitic to say it but is this guy going to eventually impale himself and are his gaffes going to kill him at some point down the line? >> he is going to need to become a lot more disciplined if you want to become a serious
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candidate. but if you are not rising in the polls or raising money people , don't really care about what he says. >> and the nfl conference championships, are the doubts -- touts right about it right mark? >> they are right about seattle, if they don't lose a home, and if they are wrong, the patriots are going to win. >> i agree with everything you say. coming up, we are going to play a real-life version of monopoly with two bloomberg politics superstars. get your top hats out. be right back. ♪
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>> money, money, money! yeah!
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joining us now we have reporting on mitt romney and chris christie. julie, let's start with you. you are looking at the mitt-jeb dynamic. tell us about the big battle for the gop establishment donor class. >> they are all over each other, 's turf, and the donors are a little bit wringing their hands about what to do at this point. i think that jeb getting into the race early signals to donors that they can sign-on with a candidate, and the donors that i am talking to this week are on hold until we get a sense of who really is going to be in the race at this point. >> do you think that jeb's trip up to boston may have spurred romney? >> oh yes, it definitely did. especially if you look on twitter, you have scott brown was tweeting a photo of him, these should be romney's people.
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>> let's go to san diego, mark. julie was just talking about the fact that it was possible that bush actually provoked romney in some way by going onto his home turf and not just talking about his bunglers, what he think about that? >> mitt is a competitive guy and so is spencer, and that is key. he has been his fundraiser ray long time, and that boston -- for a long time and that boston encroachment by jeb bush gave him the leg up to go to romney and say, these people are right in your backyard. mike, you talked to one republican who raises money for romney in the last cycle, and it would be interesting to see a romney-jeb face-off. >> this has frozen the field, what -- what -- but the effect it is going to have on candidates will be editing romney raised $70 million, and jeb just took wondered $30
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million -- hundred $30 million -- $230 million just by entering this. and then there are donors who just want to go with the winner, and without a clear winner without a clear front runner, it is unclear as to where to put your money. christie is in this conversation as to what he can raise, and so a $10 million to $50 million situation makes scott walker a lot more competitive. >> the other thing that it is interesting that i heard down here from one republican is that those numbers are the static numbers, the person i talked to had, and they say that the money out there is greater because of the senate cycles, so many new donors came in to compete and to give on the cycle to help the senate candidates, and the other factor are super pacs. one billionaire could change the calculus completely. >> that sounds smart and right to me, and it does though, the
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way that mike talks about it, it makes a wonder about how jeb is going to rack up $100 million in the first quarter. that sounds pretty difficult. even with all that money out there, part four jeb bush to do that under these circumstances -- hard for bush to do that under these circumstances. julie, i want to come back to you, mike bender just talked about chris christie in his answer to mark, i am curious about whether you think things are shaping up right now. if you think they are going to be in this race, du think there is enough room for chris christie to run a well-financed bid? >> absolutely, and he had a big win this week with greg washburn deciding that he was going to step away from the rnc finance committee and help christie raise some money if he decides to run for president. i think that is huge. greg washburn is very connected and very capable of raising a lot of money, and let's not forget that chris christie had the home depot founder in his pocket, and so he is really writing an enormous check.
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and keeping him competitive for a long time. >> does christie have a home turf advantage here in new york and on wall street? over bush or romney? neither our new york guys so does christie have an edge there? >> you would think so, but christie has a major problem and that is because he is a sitting governor. so a lot of those would be donors are off the table because he is still in office and there are sec rules about pay to play and who can raise money while they are still in office. >> mark, julie just mention the words that you know very well, pay to play. how much do you think pay to play will be a huge problem for christie in this cycle? >> this is a potentially huge problem for christie, as well as for keeping new jersey people like woody johnson who may stay loyal to romney, and whom he ran finance for last time. you are well sourced in the jeb bush campaign. what is the status of the building of that operation as they start to wrap up on the finance side of the personnel? >> they are definitely hiring
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people, they are looking for make hires for the super pac, and would be campaigners, and he talked to two dozen people who could be playing the role of a campaign manager, if it comes to that. >> john, there is a lot of focus on the finance side, and there is a call out for personnel, you see it at the meeting. there are a lot of operatives here who are being courted, and a lot of mitt operatives from the last cycle who'd don't want to be with mitt who are being courted by jeb and buy some extent chris christie. this is a big deal. >> big deals, mike and julie thank you so much, but we come back, we have an interview with mike huckabee's daughter, sarah, and hucworld insider alice stewart at the rnc meeting in san diego. we will be back in a jiff! ♪
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>> look at that shot of the beautiful hotel del coronado. yesterday, mark wandered out there in san diego, and he got to talk to two vips, alison stewart and mike huckabee's daughter, sarah. here is what happened. >> i want to talk about the culture. first of all how do the , huckabees view alice? >> we love her, she is absolutely part of the family. you don't get to be part of the team if you are not a part of the family. >> the huckabee's are not a big ambling family. -- gambling family. >> it is not a place that you usually find our crowd. >> if your dad is running, what would you said the chances? >> i would say it is pretty high. >> better than 50/50? >> i don't want to throw numbers out there, we are not gamblers i don't even know the right
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terminology in gambling terms. >> but pretty high. >> pretty high. >> going to run, not going to run? >> the fact that he stepped down from his television show says a lot. he eliminated that factor from the equation. we will see. if i was a gambling person which i am not, i would say it is high. >> what is one thing that your dad likes to do less than raise money? >> let's see, gamble. >> gamble. [laughter] >> that is high on the list. so we have the prospect of an arkansas versus arkansas general election. arkansas got a lot of attention when bill clinton was elected. is arkansas ready for all of that attention again? >> absolutely, arkansas loves a good story, and we have a lot of good places to e-commerce so we -- to eat so we are ready for
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everyone to come down and enjoy a little bit of southern hospitality. >> we are ready to come back. there are researchers looking into the clintons background. there are people investigating. have either of you stumbled into them? >> we haven't. there are maybe two or three opposition investigators, diving into dumpsters and stuff, we try to avoid diving into dumpsters. [laughter] >> your dad is looking in running and left his fox thing, how is the family dealing with this? is it fun? is it exhilarating? >> everybody thinks running for public office is a difficult -- office is glamorous but it is a difficult process and luckily our family all really likes each other and we believe in my dad and we are going to support what he does and we are all on board and get prepared to going in that direction. >> are you ready for people to -- are you being the seed -- besieged by people giving your
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resumes? >> i did not know that many people needed a job. i have seen a lot of resumes. >> the great thing is, a lot of people would like to be a part of it, and it is great to see that. a lot of folks were on the team in 2008, and there are a lot of good folks, so it is always good to be deceived with resumes instead of hearing crickets. >> far better than crickets. >> are your parents arkansans or are they floridians now? >> they are actually residents of florida come being born and raised in arkansas, you never get rid of that. court -- it is certainly where we claim to be home. >> it looks like it is going to be a largely male field for president, does that tell you where the party is now in terms of power and women? >> i think the great thing is that we saw an opportunity and that the rnc has made a great effort that is paying off to reach out to females and
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hispanics and the minority community, and it has made great strides since 2012. and who knows. who knows what could happen, we could see two or three females in it. you can certainly see that the rnc has made great strides to reach out to folks who felt that they were not in the process in 2012, and a lot can happen in the next couple of months. >> do you have some women in mind that i should be thinking about? >> i thought you said for president or for something else, but obviously there are people who are interested in it, but there are females out there who have certainly been bantered about. >> but anything can happen. governor palin. i think there are a lot of strong women who have a lot of big leadership roles, whether they do not run for president does not diminish that. women in the republican party are on the rise. in the state of arkansas, we saw the first woman and first
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republican elected to the attorney general's office in our state, so not only was it a republican, but a woman in that position. i think we are making big strides again. whether or not we see 10 women or not in the presidential race, i don't think that that matters. >> you consider hillary clinton an arkansan? >> well, her most recent position to be elected was senator from new york, so i think you would have to ask the people of arkansas. >> you are two people from arkansas. do you consider her an arkansan? >> she has a strong base in arkansas of support, and some people say the clintons will always be admired and supported, by the democrats in arkansas and that will never change. but she has certainly hung her political hat out in washington, d.c. >> there are two arkansans that i have just run into here at the hotel del coronado. thank you both. >> after the break, usable guest
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james taylor. wait, what? ♪
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>> a reminder that sometimes we
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>> i am mark crumpton, in for pimm fox. this is what i'm taking stock of on friday, january 16, 2015. president obama and david cameron held a joint news conference today and provided a united front in fighting terrorism. >> we have seen appalling attacks in paris, in nigeria. the world is sickened by this terrorism. so we will not be standing alone in this fight. >> russia had its credit rating cut by moody's. the credit agency says the country may be cut further. to junk status. please see the fiscal status

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